Allen
Shadow, an accomplished poet turned full-time musician, will be
performing live and unplugged at the Catskill Gallery of the Greene
County Council on the Arts on Saturday, at 6 p.m. I recently sat
down with him to discuss his inspirations, the music industry,
and his new album, "King Kong Serenade", a tribute to
New York City completed before Sept. 11th.
Preview: What exactly is a rock poet?
Shadow: Well, I've always wanted to be able to marry my voice as a poet with
music, and always saw challenges in that. My work as a poet was free verse, not
much rhyming, with lines occasionally having different lengths. Thinking as a
musician, you recognize inherent music in the lines. I wanted to try and maintain
the music of the language. Many times artists allow the music to drown out the
words (and therefore the message), of their song. I didn't want the music to
compete with the words;I wanted the music and poetry to work together. I feel
when I'm writing this material and performing it there's a true sense of my poetic
voice being maintained--it's a little offbeat and different, and it's not spoken
words, it's singing.
Preview: How does the 'poetry' differ from regular song lyrics?
Shadow:
Poetry when you're writing takes more risks than regular song
writing. Traditional songs
make you try to say a lot in two lines. When writing poetry,
you allow yourself to get more lost, and maybe not try to say too much in limited
space. Poetry is more free, you're not watching yourself. It's OK to be confused
and lost, and then come back, piece it together, find the core of the piece,
and discover it's less tied up in the finished product than ordinary song lyrics.
Free verse poets come up with things that maybe are a little more out there than
most song lyrics-perhaps more startling, thought provoking, maybe not even understandable. "Beck," for
example, has a lot of imagery, and it doesn't always make complete sense. Byt
you always know the overall effect of the song.
Preview: You started your career as a poet, and a successful one at
that. What inspired you to put your words to music? How long have you been
a musician?
Shadow:
I was a poet through high school and college, studying with
various poets. I was
playing acoustic guitar and singing a Capella at the same time.
Later on, as I was working on the poetry career, I was trying to (as they say)
define my voice as a writer. At the same time I was playing music the whole time,
broadening my horizons there. I always wanted to write music, and complicated
music. Obviously, that was rather difficult. But at one point I decided to write
a simple song, and I loved it. I was hooked. After about 10 years of songwriting
in Nashville, I got bored with the formula of commercial songwriting. I decided
to work on my own stuff, which is what I did with the "King Kong Serenade" project.
It's the anti-Nashviulle, in many ways. I've always been a New Yorker, and wrote
about New York and brought music to it. It was my passion, and now I could do
the more complicated songs I've always wanted to. It took about four years, but
it's finally being released, on my own label, Blue City Records.
Preview: Who has inspired you as a poet? Musician?
Shadow: Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen. Dylan I worked with, and Springsteen
always had a sense of real life in his work, which is familiar with my work.
Rickie Lee Jones, who was big in the 70's and 80's. William Carlos Williams as
a poet, Dylan Thomas because they said he 'leaned on language, pushing it,' which
is what I also try to do.
Preview: Is your upcoming unplugged show different than what people
could expect from your album?
Shadow: I recorded the album with a full band, all of which have extensive
experience as musicians, and fit my style very well. The show will be the same
material, but different obviously. I'll have a percussionist with me. There's
more presence to the work when it's unplugged, the work can breathe more than
it can on CD. The impact comes from the live performance that is unlike anything
that can be recorded.
Preview: You've been quoted
as saying that you "hope the kind of
work you're doing can be part of the development of rock and roll." How
do you see your music having a positive affect of rock and roll?
Shadow: People want to hear things that are different, and maybe a little
more interesting that what there is in pop music. A lot of performers talk a
lot about how tight a grip the industry has on what people are hearing. Five
music companies control what is heard throughout the world really. There's no
easy way for the listener to find the new artist. Eventually, there are going
to be things developed on the Internet that will make it easier for people to
search out new music according to their tastes, at which point bands can be more
independent and creative, not held down by music companies. I want to push the
envelope of the industry, and hope a few of the things I do are of interest to
people and catch on. |